Oil Return after an oil change
- Hedgehog
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Oil Return after an oil change
Hi All
In a bit of a panic !
I've just carried out an oil change on my 57 16MS ( First time I've changed the oil on an old British bike )
Had the bike 3 years but not used it on the road much in that time (about 100 miles). Its not been started in a few months so I drained the sump and the oil tank and re filled to the level.
It started up first kick and idled as I was watching for oil return but there was none and the level in the tank didn't appear to drop at all. After about 20/30 seconds I stopped it for fear of damage.
Prior to this the oil return was very small at idle , not sure if this means anything but the bike seemed to go well.
In the manual it says drain the oil and refill , I can't find mention of any other procedure that needs to be followed.
Does it take time to sort itself out after an oil change or have I broken it ?
Thanks for any advice.
Andy
In a bit of a panic !
I've just carried out an oil change on my 57 16MS ( First time I've changed the oil on an old British bike )
Had the bike 3 years but not used it on the road much in that time (about 100 miles). Its not been started in a few months so I drained the sump and the oil tank and re filled to the level.
It started up first kick and idled as I was watching for oil return but there was none and the level in the tank didn't appear to drop at all. After about 20/30 seconds I stopped it for fear of damage.
Prior to this the oil return was very small at idle , not sure if this means anything but the bike seemed to go well.
In the manual it says drain the oil and refill , I can't find mention of any other procedure that needs to be followed.
Does it take time to sort itself out after an oil change or have I broken it ?
Thanks for any advice.
Andy
- Rob Harknett
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Re: Oil Return after an oil change
It could take 2/3 minutes to first refill the sump, then start to return oil to the tank. It will first appear to bubble and spit.
When did you last clean the oil filter?
When did you last clean the oil filter?
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Re: Oil Return after an oil change
Hi RobRob Harknett wrote:It could take 2/3 minutes to first refill the sump, then start to return oil to the tank. It will first appear to bubble and spit.
When did you last clean the oil filter?
There doesn't appear to be a filter that I can see, the book shows one in the oil feed pipe coming off the bottom of the oil tank. Mine doesn't look like the pipes are designed to come off. I'll try to put a picture up.
I'm very new to classic British bikes so in a steep leaning curve at the moment.
Thanks
Andy
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Re: Oil Return after an oil change
Don't worry; it can take several minutes.
All fully discussed in the link below, from the 'Frequently asked questions' section of this website:
http://www.jampot.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=13368
All fully discussed in the link below, from the 'Frequently asked questions' section of this website:
http://www.jampot.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=13368
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Which taken at the flood............'
Which taken at the flood............'
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Re: Oil Return after an oil change
RobRob Harknett wrote:It could take 2/3 minutes to first refill the sump, then start to return oil to the tank. It will first appear to bubble and spit.
When did you last clean the oil filter?
Can't come apart , its been changed from original assume.
Andy
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Re: Oil Return after an oil change
Thanks for that , didn't think !SPRIDDLER wrote:Don't worry; it can take several minutes.
All fully discussed in the link below, from the 'Frequently asked questions' section of this website:
http://www.jampot.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=13368
Andy
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Re: Oil Return after an oil change
No prob.Andy Hinkinson wrote:Thanks for that , didn't think !SPRIDDLER wrote:Don't worry; it can take several minutes.
All fully discussed in the link below, from the 'Frequently asked questions' section of this website:
http://www.jampot.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=13368
Andy
Since you mentioned that you're new to Brit bikes (and I've nothing much else to do ) the following brief overview may comfort you...…...
The H/W single main and big end bearings are ball or roller type and are fed by a reciprocating plunger type oil pump delivering pulses of oil and can happily survive running for a few minutes without additional lubrication. The twin engines have shell big end bearings and are fed by ('require') a rotary pump delivering a continuous flow at higher pressure.
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Which taken at the flood............'
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Re: Oil Return after an oil change
HiAndy Hinkinson wrote:Can't come apart , its been changed from original assume.
Those oil pipes are original or extremely good copies - they just pull off, use a little oil on them when you refit.
My original pipes and ferrules:
The oil screen can fall down into the pipe so if it's not in the tube from the tank have a firkle in the pipe
Regards Mick
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Re: Oil Return after an oil change
Have you got this manual? http://archives.jampot.dk/book/Workshop ... dition.pdf
See page 13. re filter problems and oil return
See page 13. re filter problems and oil return
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Re: Oil Return after an oil change
I do now , Thank you !Rob Harknett wrote:Have you got this manual? http://archives.jampot.dk/book/Workshop ... dition.pdf
See page 13. re filter problems and oil return
Andy