Late CSR Tail Light

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Late CSR Tail Light

Postby Martin.S » Sat May 18, 2019 11:28 am

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Does anyone recognise this tail lamp - it looks different than the earlier CSR's

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Re: Late CSR Tail Light

Postby Rob Harknett » Sat May 18, 2019 12:14 pm

It could be Wipac S 3704

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Re: Late CSR Tail Light

Postby Rob Harknett » Sat May 18, 2019 12:35 pm

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I have this light on a couple of my unrestored lightweights, which I believe are original. One of the bike's was only used for about a year when new. Owner past his car test, stop riding the bike, bike got stuck at the back of the garage for about 50 years.
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Re: Late CSR Tail Light

Postby Ozmadman » Sat May 18, 2019 2:58 pm

This is mine, the lens is original but the original holder had separate stop and tail bulbs. The original lens fits a later holder with one stop/tail bulb, you would never know unless you remove the lens! When I next uncover the bike I will get the number off the lens for you.
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Re: Late CSR Tail Light

Postby Rob Harknett » Sat May 18, 2019 5:12 pm

Ozmadman wrote:This is mine, the lens is original but the original holder had separate stop and tail bulbs. The original lens fits a later holder with one stop/tail bulb, you would never know unless you remove the lens! When I next uncover the bike I will get the number off the lens for you.

That looks like the light on my 63 650 CSR but I think its Lucas, would the lightweight not be Wipac? Not sure if the light on my CSR is original. I am sure my lightweight light is original. I have that same light as my picture on my 66 G2 CSR also on my 58 G2.

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Re: Late CSR Tail Light

Postby Janet » Sat May 18, 2019 5:59 pm

My G2CSR isn't a late one as it's a '64 version with the beautiful big chromed* mudguards, but this is a photo of its tail light. It's a Wipac and only has a single stop and tail lamp in it. Whether or not it is original I can't know because I haven't had it from new but it's odds-on that it is. Whether or not it's the same as late lights, I don't know that either.
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Re: Late CSR Tail Light

Postby shifter » Sat May 18, 2019 6:18 pm

My old ones
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Re: Late CSR Tail Light

Postby Ozmadman » Sun May 19, 2019 9:28 am

Janet wrote:My G2CSR isn't a late one as it's a '64 version with the beautiful big chromed* mudguards, but this is a photo of its tail light. It's a Wipac and only has a single stop and tail lamp in it. Whether or not it is original I can't know because I haven't had it from new but it's odds-on that it is. Whether or not it's the same as late lights, I don't know that either.
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Same as mine Janet and it looks the same as in the sales brochure show here as well
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Re: Late CSR Tail Light

Postby Rob Harknett » Sun May 19, 2019 12:51 pm

Ozmadman wrote:
Janet wrote:My G2CSR isn't a late one as it's a '64 version with the beautiful big chromed* mudguards, but this is a photo of its tail light. It's a Wipac and only has a single stop and tail lamp in it. Whether or not it is original I can't know because I haven't had it from new but it's odds-on that it is. Whether or not it's the same as late lights, I don't know that either.
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Same as mine Janet and it looks the same as in the sales brochure show here as well

I do believe my 64 AJS 14 CSR also has that rear lamp. Unfortunately sales cat. pictures are not 100% correct, old artwork was used. I have seen books containing all original artwork. You can clearly see the paintings have been changed to suit a year after the year they were drawn for. They only seemed to alter major parts that changed. So a smaller part like a rear lamp may have remained un altered on the drawing. There could have also been times when suppliers could not meet demands for a part, so a substitute was used. This certainly happened with levers, sometimes being Amal or Bowden etc.

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Re: Late CSR Tail Light

Postby Martin.S » Sun May 19, 2019 3:49 pm

Yes Janet's, Shifter's and Ozmadman's appear to be the ones.
Janet - Are you able look see if there are any manufacturers numbers on there?
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