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Re: Crash Cards

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 3:11 pm
by leswaller
Lawrence,
I beg to differ, after 30 years in the NHS I would advise you NEVER to remove a helmet unless you have been appropriately trained. You do not need to remove a helmet to perform CPR

Re: Crash Cards

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:31 pm
by SPRIDDLER
ray.woolford wrote:Hey Nev how many grannies have you collected ??
;) To keep on topic let's just say I've bumped into a couple.

Re: Crash Cards

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:46 pm
by ajscomboman
SPRIDDLER wrote:
ray.woolford wrote:Hey Nev how many grannies have you collected ??
;) To keep on topic let's just say I've bumped into a couple.
Ok, staying on topic I hope they've not tried to remove your helmet! :o :o :rofl: :rofl:

I'll get my coat before Janet tells me off!!! :oops:

Re: Crash Cards

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 8:28 pm
by clive
leswaller wrote:Lawrence,
I beg to differ, after 30 years in the NHS I would advise you NEVER to remove a helmet unless you have been appropriately trained. You do not need to remove a helmet to perform CPR
Les how do you do the breaths part of the CPR if the person is wearing a full face helmet? I do not challenge your advice not to remove the helmet but am unable to understand how you do the rescue breaths.

Re: Crash Cards

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 8:51 pm
by Janet
clive wrote:
leswaller wrote:Lawrence,
I beg to differ, after 30 years in the NHS I would advise you NEVER to remove a helmet unless you have been appropriately trained. You do not need to remove a helmet to perform CPR
Les how do you do the breaths part of the CPR if the person is wearing a full face helmet? I do not challenge your advice not to remove the helmet but am unable to understand how you do the rescue breaths.
They've changed the advice. Now you don't do the breaths, just the chest compressions. When the chest expands after each press, it drags air into the lungs.

Re: Crash Cards

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:10 pm
by leswaller
Spot on Janet, the only time you would need to remove the helmet is if the airway appears to be compromised in any way. In those circumstances you may need to remove the helmet and risk turning the rider into a paraplegic. It needs at least two specifically trained people to remove a helmet safely if there is any suggestion of a back injury or if the rider is unconscious.